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		<description><![CDATA[[This blog post is part of the Carnival of Irish Heritage &#38; Culture, 18th Edition sponsored by Small-Leaved Shamrock.] Religion in the Homeland Do you know much about Methodism in Ireland in the 1800s?  I sure didn&#8217;t when I started my latest quest.  My goal was to learn more about the probable religion of my [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[This blog post is part of the <a rel="nofollow" target="_blank" title="Irish Heritage Carnival" href="http://www.irishheritagecarnival.blogspot.com/" target="_blank">Carnival of Irish Heritage &amp; Culture</a>, 18th Edition sponsored by <a rel="nofollow" target="_blank" title="Small Leaved Shamrock" href="http://small-leavedshamrock.blogspot.com/" target="_blank">Small-Leaved Shamrock</a>.]</p>
<h1>Religion in the Homeland</h1>
<p>Do you know much about Methodism in Ireland in the 1800s?  I sure didn&#8217;t when I started my latest quest.  My goal was to learn more about the probable religion of my ancestors during the time leading up to when our James <strong>KERR</strong> (married to Jane <strong>HENDERSON</strong>) left Ireland for Canada (which was sometime between 1841 and 1847).<strong> </strong></p>
<p><strong> </strong><strong> </strong> Our KERR ancestors were <strong>Methodists</strong> in Quebec and I suspect they were Methodists in Ireland.</p>
<p>The  <a rel="nofollow" target="_blank" title="IrishMethodist.org website" href="http://www.irishmethodist.org/about/history.php" target="_blank">Irish Methodist </a>states that the Founder of Methodism, John Wesley first visited Ireland in 1747.  John went on to pay twenty-one visits to Ireland, lengthening in time and extent until they covered almost all of it.  Samuel Handy offered his residence, Coolalough in the parish of Ardnurcher, as a base from which they might work in the Irish Midlands.  Methodist societies were established within a 50 km radius of his home.</p>
<p style="padding-left: 30px;">&#8220;The development in the Midlands encouraged John Wesley to send preachers from England to pioneer in different counties. They tended to visit the cities and market towns, and to attract attention by preaching wherever they could attract a crowd. Wesley began to visit Ireland regularly to encourage the societies they formed, and the growth of the movement can be plotted by his lengthening itineraries, first to south and west, but then to the north. His first visit to Ulster was in 1752.&#8221;</p>
<p>A large British garrison, finding themselves in Ireland, considerably strengthened, or even started Methodist societies in garrison towns.</p>
<h4>Member of TWO Religions</h4>
<p>From the <a rel="nofollow" target="_blank" title="IrishMethodist.org" href="http://www.irishmethodist.org/about/genealogy.php" target="_blank">Irish Methodist:</a></p>
<p style="padding-left: 30px;">Although there have been Methodists in Ireland since the 1740s, for the first 70 years <span style="text-decoration: underline;"><strong>Methodists usually had dual membership as both Methodists and also members of the parish church</strong></span><strong>.<span style="text-decoration: underline;"> In terms of<em> births, marriages and death</em> the place to look for these will normally be in the local Church of Ireland parish register.</span></strong></p>
<p style="padding-left: 30px;">The first tentative step in breaking the sacramental link with the Established Church was taken at the Methodist Conference of 1816 but not finally authorized until 1818 when for the first time Methodist societies and preachers were permitted to have the sacraments of baptism and Holy Communion in their own preaching houses. Societies in the north of Ireland were quicker to avail of this facility than those in the south but by the 1830s most societies were recording baptisms in their local chapel or in central ‘circuit&#8217; registers.</p>
<p style="padding-left: 30px;">
<p><em>Finding the concentrations of  historical Methodist societies along with KERR and HENDERSON surname concentrations could narrow my search down somewhat but this could also be equivalent to searching for the proverbial needle in the haystack.</em></p>
<h4>Irish Methodist Reminiscences<em><br />
</em></h4>
<p>Add to the search <span style="text-decoration: underline;"><strong><a rel="nofollow" target="_blank" title="Poverty in Ireland on eve of Great Famine 1841" href="http://www.wesleyjohnston.com/users/ireland/maps/historical/poverty_1841.gif" target="_blank">areas of poverty</a></strong></span> in Ireland on the eve of the Great Famine in 1841;  the areas where the Great Famine of Ireland  <span style="text-decoration: underline;"><strong><a rel="nofollow" target="_blank" title="Distribution of the Great Famine 1847 Ireland" href="http://www.wesleyjohnston.com/users/ireland/maps/historical/famine_1847.gif" target="_blank">hit the hardest</a></strong></span> in 1845-1847 and regions where the <strong><a rel="nofollow" target="_blank" title="Population Decrease in Ireland 1841-1851" href="http://www.wesleyjohnston.com/users/ireland/maps/historical/pop_change_1841_1851.gif" target="_blank">population fell the greatest</a></strong> from the time period of 1841-1851 may lead to a clearer understanding.</p>
<p>One book a genealogy friend suggested was <a rel="nofollow" target="_blank" href="http://www.archive.org/details/irishmethodistre00thomiala">Irish Methodist reminiscences; being mainly memorials of the life and labours of the Rev. S. Nicholson</a> &#8211; Thomas, Edward, of Lisburn, Antrim, published in 1889.  The full text is available free through Cornell University Digitized Library Collection (under no known copyright).</p>
<p>I downloaded the pdf file of this 268 page book and did a quick search on the word &#8220;county&#8221; to see what I might find.   Mentions were of County Derry and County Monaghan.  I also searched for my two surnames and didn&#8217;t find a mention.  I then went back to the online version of the book so I could &#8216;flip&#8217; pages like I would if I was reading it.  This time I was looking for anything of interest including more county names and any mention of Canada where my ancestors settled after they left Ireland. There was a Mission to Canada mentioned and I had to chuckle at these words:</p>
<p style="padding-left: 30px;"><em>The Rev. W. McClure, himself a first-class penman, in a letter to Mr. and Mrs. Nicholson, from Canada, in 1867, says,</em><em> Dear Mrs. Nicholson, write yourself, for I can&#8217;t read some of Mr. Nicholson&#8217;s writing; if he don&#8217;t preach better than he writes, it must be awful.&#8221; </em></p>
<p>Talk about getting side tracked&#8230;back to the search at hand <img src='http://www.luxegen.ca/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<h4>Missions</h4>
<p>I did find this under &#8220;Places Missioned&#8221; on page 81.</p>
<p style="padding-left: 30px;">We have examined the letters of the Superintendents<br />
and those of the Missionaries which appeared in the New<br />
Methodist Magazine, from 1825 till 1840, and <strong>have collected<br />
the following list of preaching places</strong>, with the view of<br />
giving some idea of the extent of the Society&#8217;s operations<br />
during those years. The names were transcribed as they<br />
occurred, without reference to geographical situation or<br />
connection. Some names may have escaped our notice :<br />
Belfast Bangor Newtownards<br />
Ballinahinch Lisburn Smithboro&#8217;<br />
Newtownbreda Priesthill Downpatrick<br />
Newcastle Broomhedge Selchin<br />
Antrim Moira Blackwater<br />
Ballymuldery Lurgan Tonnycoogin<br />
Cornearney Eichill Largey<br />
Ballymena Gracehill Carnlea<br />
Randalstown Tubbermore Cullybackey<br />
Gloonen Seuford Lanehill<br />
Drumnall Bryansford Killough<br />
Ring-Woody Armagh Lismore<br />
Ardglass Quintin Bay Magerhafelt<br />
Scotchtown Cohan Monagban<br />
Drumnail Anna Cramp Deny Corr<br />
Portadown Ballyhaise Dumnali<br />
Woodburn Xockranagan Innisrush<br />
Derrehalla Tullyserran Loughgall<br />
Stradone Slash Charlemount<br />
Glasslough Crossforth Ballyhay<br />
Clones Bailieborough Ballyhornen<br />
Ballyhulbert Crewe Stonyford<br />
Ballinderry Moyrusk Milltown</p>
<p>More place names are mentioned on page 82 and 89 including mentions of members leaving to emigrate to Canada and the United States.  Bangor and Newtownards are mentioned on page 156 and 157.</p>
<p>On page 88:</p>
<p style="padding-left: 30px;">but migration and emigration were, as they continue to be, a constant drain upon the membership, keeping the numbers down. Young people cannot find suitable or sufficient employment in the small<br />
or rural districts in Ireland, in which most of the mission Stations are situated. All over the Island, the population has been steadily going down.  Some of the Irish missionaries were early induced to leave for Canada, and their reports and letters from the &#8220;goodly land &#8220;attracted many of the Irish members to the Dominion, and these, in their turn, induced others to follow : so that there continued a constant exodus of Irish Methodist New Connexionists to Canada.</p>
<h4>Famine, Pestilence and Death</h4>
<p>The Irish had additional burdens.  <strong>Cholera </strong>was &#8216;alarmingly prevalent in 1846-1847.  (Irish Methodist Reminiscences, page 155.)  The church members attended to the sick, starving and dying.</p>
<p>From page 157:</p>
<p style="padding-left: 60px;">The years 1816 till 1849 in Ireland were years of famine and disease following upon the &#8220;potato blight,&#8221; when thousands of sufferers perished. Newtownards suffered from the &#8220;famine&#8221; more than any other town in the North.</p>
<p style="padding-left: 30px;">
<p>Page 159 by Mrs. Nicholson, wife of Reverend Nicholson.</p>
<p style="padding-left: 30px;">Oh ! the scenes of filth and wretchedness, hunger,<br />
nakedness and disease which my dear husband witnessed<br />
and tried to relieve. Hundreds had no bed-clothes whatever,<br />
and but an excuse for a bed or none at all ; and they<br />
covered themselves at night with the scant garments<br />
which they wore during the day. I can never forget<br />
many individual cases which came under our special notice.<br />
A poor man came for a &#8216; line &#8216; to get his wife into the<br />
hospital. The poor woman was &#8216; down in fever,&#8217; and had<br />
a baby just six weeks old. The man said he &#8216; dooted they<br />
wad both d&#8217;e, but he added &#8216; a dinna care for &#8216;am caught<br />
mysel&#8217;.&#8217; They were all admitted to the hospital : the<br />
poor fellow himself was the only one that succumbed. We<br />
had meal to give out to the starving ones ; and of a morning<br />
above a hundred poor creatures would be gathered<br />
about our door. One day a poor woman fainted in the<br />
crush. The patients in the hospital were dying daily</p>
<p>These were likely the conditions my ancestors were fleeing when they left Ireland for Canada sometime between 1841 and 1847.</p>
<p>Does this foray into <a rel="nofollow" target="_blank" title="Irish Methodist Reminiscences" href="http://www.archive.org/details/irishmethodistre00thomiala" target="_blank">one of the books of Early Irish Methodists</a> give me the answers I am seeking?  Not yet, but it does give me a better understanding of the Irish Methodist church and its localities and the horrific conditions of the times.  This was the era when my ancestors left for Canada.  The more I understand about the times and their religion the more likely I will find my answers.</p>
<p>Please share your thoughts below.</p>
<p>&#8211;</p>
<p><strong>Resources:</strong></p>
<p><a rel="nofollow" target="_blank" title="Irish Methodist Reminiscences" href="http://www.archive.org/details/irishmethodistre00thomiala" target="_blank"><strong>Irish Methodist reminiscences; being mainly memorials of the life and labours of the Rev. S. Nicholson</strong></a></p>
<p><a rel="nofollow" target="_blank" title="Historical Maps of Ireland" href="http://www.wesleyjohnston.com/users/ireland/map_index.html" target="_blank">*The Ireland Story</a></p>
<p><a rel="nofollow" target="_blank" title="Counties of Ireland" href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Counties_of_Ireland" target="_blank">Historical county map</a> of Ireland</p>
<p><a rel="nofollow" target="_blank" title="Ireland's Historical Mapping Archive" href="http://www.irishhistoricmaps.ie/historic/" target="_blank">Ireland&#8217;s Historical Mapping Archive</a> ($)</p>
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